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Old 17th March 2006, 01:17 PM
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Default the so-called Gospel of Judas

this newly discovered ancient document dates from the 4th century A.D., but is believed to be a copy of a work originating in the 2nd century.

http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au...55E912,00.html

It will be released April 6th. But, based on early media reports and quotes from the document, it contains assertions and a portrayal of Jesus and Judas that is contrary to the four true Gospels and contrary to Church teaching.

There are several other such non-canonical Gospels from the early Church. They contain errors, however, they are instructive in a number of ways.

1. They teach us that the early Church was not perfect. The early Church is often represented as some kind of ideal to which we ough to aspire, and the early Christians are often spoken of as if they were nearly perfect. But a read through several of these non-canonical works, which came out of the early Church, shows that early Christians struggled to understand correct doctrine and often had misunderstandings about the Faith.

2. They show us the difference between an inspired Gospel and a mere work of human ingenuity. Some modern Biblical scholars treat the Gospels as if they were merely human works, full of errors and misunderstandings, and thoroughly influenced by human faults and biases. But a comparison with the non-canonical works called Gospels and Epistles shows a clear difference. The non-canonical works actually fit the modernist and erroneous view of the Gospels. The non-canonical works are, in fact, full of the errors and the misunderstandings of their authors; they are influenced by human faults and failings. This shows us how far astray some Biblical scholars have gone, in that their description of canonical Gospels fits only the non-canonicals works.

3. By refuting error and heresy, we come to a better understanding of the truths of the faith.

So, it should be an interesting read.

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Old 17th March 2006, 03:40 PM
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Ron,

If you can post a link to the document when it hits the net, it will be appreciated

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Old 7th April 2006, 10:25 PM
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Default Gospel of Judas

Here is a link to a PDF file of the translated text (in English):

http://www9.nationalgeographic.com/l...pelofJudas.pdf

Of course, this text is non-canonical and has been rejected by the Fathers of the Church as heretical.


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Old 8th April 2006, 01:19 PM
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my comments on the Gospel of Judas:


1. portrays Jesus as laughing repeatedly at his disciples: when they are praying, when they ask him a question, and when Judas tells him that he had a vision, and at other times. This is typical of gnosticism's portrayal of Jesus; he laughs because he understands the 'secret knowledge' and the disciples do not.

2. gnostic mythology is interwoven with an account of Jesus, Judas, and the other disciples: for example, Judas says to Jesus 'You are from the immortal realm of Barbelo.' The term Barbelo refers to the Gnostic version of God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbelo). The Gnostic description of God is thoroughly heretical.

3. the Twelve Apostles (11 plus the one who would later replace Judas) are each portrayed as a 'minister of error'. They see a vision of 12 men who 'sacrifice their own children' or their wives, who sleep with men, who 'commit a multitude of sins'. Then Jesus tells them 'you are those twelve men you have seen'. Generally the 12 Apostles are portrayed as worshipping their own god, not the true God.

4. Judas is portrayed as the only one of the 13 (Judas, the other 11, plus the one who would later replace Judas) who has received the secret knowledge from Jesus.

5. Judas is portrayed as being above the other 12 Apostles. He has a vision of the 12 stoning him, but Jesus says that Judas (or his offspring) will one day rule over the 12.

6. certain angels are said to be 'self-generated' and one angel is said to be 'the enlightened divine Self-Generated'. Certain of these angels are said to be rulers over various parts of creation, as if they were gods.

7. the creation of the human race and of Adam and Eve is attributed to angels, not to God.

8. there are only a few lines about Judas' betrayal. It is not clear what Judas' motivation is, nor is it stated that Jesus wanted Judas to betray him.


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